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Offline scary crow

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Any Ideas
« on: March 21, 2017, 07:55:46 PM »
Was given a bunch of tools by a friend and found this tool i,ve got a good idea what it is but thought someone else on here would have a idea and maybe make my idea correct .. It,s got a makers name ''Brades''  and has a lovely long ash handle so come on lads and lasses lets here what you think ..

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2017, 08:17:07 PM »
Looks as tho it be good at chopping a crop at ground level possibly SPROUTS never seen one before.

Bet Gee will know   what:-o
« Last Edit: March 21, 2017, 08:19:48 PM by Westheathdave »

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 02:25:58 AM »
Not a Brades Mistletoe cutter by any chance?

You should recognise the name "Brades" Dave - they were from your neck of the woods. My father was a stonemason & bricklayer. His trowel of choice was WHS (William Hunt & Sons) they established the Brades Forge. Here's a brief history.

The founder of the company, William Hunt, was an edge tool maker at Rowley Regis, near Dudley, Worcestershire, in the late 18th century. In 1782 he purchased the Brades Estate at Oldbury, near Birmingham, and established a new works there known as Brades Forge, or simply as The Brades. By 1805 they were also manufacturing steel on the site, which was now known as the Brades Steel Works. Around 1793, Hunt took W. Cliffe into partnership, and for a short period the firm was known as Hunt and Cliffe: this name appears in the company's first ledger, dated 9 May 1794. This partnership dissolved around 1803, and Hunt continued trading on his own account until 1809, when he took his sons into partnership and the firm became known as William Hunt & Sons.

In 1828 the company acquired William Edwards and Sons (incorporating the Eagle Edge Tool Company), and later the business of Bache Bros, spade makers of Churchill Forge, near Stourbridge. In the late 19th century George Heaton became a major shareholder in the company.

In 1951 the company amalgamated with Nash Tyzack to form Brades Nash Tyzack Industries, and later took over the business of Skelton. In 1962, together with Harrison, they became part of Spear & Jackson, who in 1967 also acquired Edward Elwell Ltd (they made the Cardiganshire or Aberaeron shovel for a time), all the companies coming together as parts of S&J by 1972. In 1985 S&J became part of the Neill Tools Group based in Sheffield, who still own the brand today.

Interesting isn't it? So my guess is it's a Brades Mistletoe cutter (a very rare tool by now & worth a bomb as an antique tool). I could be wrong of course, Dave's suggestion is also a good one.
 

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2017, 09:08:56 AM »
maybe a hop cutter ??
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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2017, 10:48:50 AM »
10 OUT OF 10 for Gee  clap:-)  clap:-)  Grin2:-)  Told you Gee would know. Something else new I've learnt today  CW ;-)

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2017, 01:28:54 PM »
I know a bit about Brades Dave - not so confident I'm right about the tool though.
 

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Re: Any Ideas
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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2017, 03:48:41 PM »
Woo-Whoo! I checked out that link of yours Annette, I'm more confident than ever now! Yep I'm sticking to 'mistletoe cutter'. I claim my prize - what is it Scary?  CW ;-)
 

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2017, 05:57:13 PM »
 YRTB Well done Annette 10 out of ten for you too.  BOF)

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2017, 11:53:40 PM »
Woo-Whoo! I checked out that link of yours Annette, I'm more confident than ever now! Yep I'm sticking to 'mistletoe cutter'. I claim my prize - what is it Scary?  CW ;-)

Sorry gee no prize for you look at the shape of those tools on that link there different and then i did more research and found a mistletoe cutter marked with the brades logo ..

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2017, 07:45:46 AM »
Well I'm not so sure it is a mistletoe cutter. If you look at the description in the title that Annette linked to...it has a ? At the end, possibly indicating that it is a guess and not a statement of fact.


It might well be a mistletoe cutter but without definitive proof it literally is anybody's guess.
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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2017, 04:05:04 PM »

Sorry gee no prize for you look at the shape of those tools on that link there different and then i did more research and found a mistletoe cutter marked with the brades logo ..

Now look at the photo of a mistletoe cutter that Annette dug up:

Pretty similar don't you think? I rest my case & demand my prize!!!  Angry:-{

Brades probably made a few different types of different designs.
 

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2017, 04:07:23 PM »
Well I'm not so sure it is a mistletoe cutter. If you look at the description in the title that Annette linked to...it has a ? At the end, possibly indicating that it is a guess and not a statement of fact.


It might well be a mistletoe cutter but without definitive proof it literally is anybody's guess.

Are you ganging up on me as well Tommo? At this rate I'm packing my bags & moving to Vancouver (or King's Norton) to be amongst friends!!
 

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2017, 10:56:17 PM »

Sorry gee no prize for you look at the shape of those tools on that link there different and then i did more research and found a mistletoe cutter marked with the brades logo ..

Now look at the photo of a mistletoe cutter that Annette dug up:

Pretty similar don't you think? I rest my case & demand my prize!!!  Angry:-{

Brades probably made a few different types of different designs.



Think your correct old boy they probably did make a few different versions of it over the years .. I also thought it may have been a p Thistle spud as pictured below .. Oh well i have taught you well in the time i have been on here  lol(1)  .. Got a few other old tools will post on here a old cultivator and a old swoe .. Well your prize let me see a bus journey to the supermarket  on your bus pass all your dreams come together at once  ROL :-)) .. Well done gee and also to annette who found the link all i need to do now is find some mistletoe ..

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2017, 11:36:56 PM »
cwl:-] you should have guessed a Celtic Warrior would have got it! The Druids used to worship mistletoe because it grew on their sacred oaks.

I guess you could make a fortune with that tool, if you could find a crop of mistletoe around Saturnalia time Scary!!
 

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2017, 11:48:42 PM »
Wont make my fortune then the last mistletoe i see was growing on the queens sandringham estate there was loads of it in the trees there ..

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2017, 08:00:34 AM »
Move to Devon...the stuff is in just about every other tree down here.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2017, 08:26:19 PM »
Move to Devon...the stuff is in just about every other tree down here.

If i was to win the lottery i would move to either devon or somerset then i could go around collecting mistletoe at christmas time and make another fortune ...

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Re: Any Ideas
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2017, 08:46:58 PM »
Can I suggest, for the time being, that you lend Tommo your mistletoe cutter, get him to collect all the mistletoe he can in December & then he can pay you some commission on the dosh he makes!  CW ;-)