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Arson attack on hives
« on: February 17, 2015, 11:19:22 AM »

On Sunday we suffered an arson attack at out allotment apiary.
One bloke has lost one complete hive and the other has been severely heat damaged and will need to be replaced - but some bees remain so yet to discover if queen has.

All of mine has thinners around so I was lucky not to have mine set alight. Am concerned that queens and colonies may be damaged by application of said thinners though so whilst I saw a few bees yesterday it might not mean they're healthy. Too cold to open them up yet though and find out if the queen is able to lay still.

Feel quite sick.

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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 11:45:20 AM »

It sickens me down to my boots Di. I REALLY hope the police take it seriously. They have a strange annoying habit of treating crime on allotment sites like they do crimes on a Gypsy site. It's as if it's not as serious as crime outside the allotment site gates. They seem to think it's a matter to be sorted out amongst the occupants, especially if the ones who attended the incident don't understand what allotment sites and cultivating your own food or keeping bees is about. It's such a common phenomenon that it should be brought to the attention of higher powers.

One of the police officers that actually witnessed my polytunnel being vandalised and my belongings being scattered about said to me later "I don't know why you bother"! She had her arse kicked though because I wrote a letter for the IPCC and showed it to the inspector at the station before posting it. He jumped into life, asked me to hold fire and the next thing I knew was that the WPC involved was frantically writting up statements from all those involved. On March the 4th (almost a full year later) the culprits are appearing in the Magistrates Court at the behest of the Crown Prosecution Service. So don't despair - the police can be kick started into life when you apply a blow lamp to them (oops sorry about that - a bad choice of mataphor perhaps)!  CW ;-)
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 01:45:23 PM »

I don't know what a reasonable level of investigation is for arson of beehives. There's no human loss of life.
I don't even know what timescale we should be allocated an investigating officer.

Went out before and it still smells of thinners out there. I wasn't near the hives.

F&ck. I'm going to go back out and see if the hives smells stronger than it did the day before.
EDIT: no must be sunshine making the stuff evaporate off into the air. Or someone dropped some at that point of the apiary.
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 10:25:04 PM »

Sickened to read this post whoever did this has got to be some sort of sick bastard [pardon my french ] to set alight bee hives shame it was not summer time and they got stung to death ... Im so sorry to hear about the guy who lost the complete hive   spf:-( and hope your bee,s will be ok after the thinners attack please keep us posted on there progress Di ..  As the police they most probally wont even bother with the incident they dont seem to care now ...
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2015, 08:00:33 AM »

Thanks. It's really not good. I woke up at 4 and couldn't get back to sleep. I resisted the temptation to get out of bed to see if my hives were still ok.
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And we have an allotment meeting tonight.

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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2015, 08:48:08 AM »

Hi Ya, so sorry to hear about your hives dimogga. With you on this one BG I can't understand it. We need bees and yet some a----hole does this. Is it jealousy, wanton vandilism, though if they knew about or brought the thinners with them then it was obviously a vindictive attack. My heart is with you dimogga and good luck. I hope and pray your bees are ok.
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2015, 04:57:49 AM »

I just don't understand this kind of sick, vicious, behavior and what really scares me is their mentality, there seems to be an explosion of destructive behavior everywhere. I don't have bees myself but was so happy the other day when I came home, opening the truck door I saw a little crocus border of mine just covered with honey bees. Honey bees have been absent from my garden for the last 6-8 years, maybe a half dozen working my aster bed in the fall, lots of other bees and insects but only these few honey bees. You all know what an aster bed in the fall should look like, swarming with honey bees. Bee keepers here have had terrible losses the last few years so I'm hoping things are finally starting to improve.
Dimogga  ss:-(
 I totally know how you're feeling, like someone kicked you hard in the stomach, it's a heartbreaking thing to happen. I'm a firm believer in what goes around comes around, whoever did this will get theirs, they won't know when or where but they WILL get theirs.
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2015, 10:09:33 AM »

 :-)=

Thank you all.

We discussed it at the association meeting last night along with some other vandalism. Everyone was quite horrified.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2015, 12:01:26 PM »

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Thank you all.

We discussed it at the association meeting last night along with some other vandalism. Everyone was quite horrified.

]Out of interest, was the suspected culprit there amongst you Di?
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2015, 12:43:04 PM »

No!

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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2015, 04:24:09 PM »

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No!

Guessed he wouldn't have been!
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2015, 06:11:49 PM »

On a better note, the nice police man who rang me today is going to try and visit the neighbours to see if anyone of them have any info on the recent spates of vandalism.

The meeting was very positive in spite of such bad news.
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2015, 12:49:01 AM »

It's difficult to carry out a crime like that without someone seeing something suspicious - especially as there was smoke, fire & burning smells involved.
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2015, 09:07:34 AM »

Yes I'm hoping there's still time for a witness to pop up.

Have this form to fill in - for police records on how much loss/damage occured.

Colonies are 250 a go this time of year. So that's potentially 6 of them. John needs two new complete hives - that's 300 ish and then I will need to replace my frames in boxes (Even if my bees survive I will to ensure no contamination of honey) so that's a few hundred quid I think.
Too miserable to think about adding it up properly at the minute.
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2015, 10:27:02 AM »

Unfortunately I'm also familiar with that feeling Di.  spf:-(

Fingers crossed that someone has seen something.
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2015, 10:46:42 AM »

My thornes delivery is due today and normally it'd be really exciting going through the box and seeing what I ordered, but today I think it's going to feel a bit hollow.

I am hopeful. And I believe in karma.
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2015, 12:29:41 PM »

Don't worry Thorne's will still be selling bee keeping stuff & you'll soon be back on your feet with your bee hives and hopefully the low life that's caused your misery will be history.  CW ;-)
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2015, 10:06:14 PM »

Had a lovely morning on site chatting to nice people.
That makes a difference. :)
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2015, 11:43:26 PM »

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Had a lovely morning on site chatting to nice people.
That makes a difference. :)

It certainly does, I'm glad to hear it. Keep that chin up  CW ;-)
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Re: Arson attack on hives
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2015, 12:02:09 AM »

Dimmoga I was really saddened to hear about this. Firstly because of all the time and energy spent on ensuring you have a hive healthy enough to see it through winter and secondly because of the wantless destruction and cruelty to these hard working creatures that keep us fed and nature productive.

 I hope the remaining hives recover and that they find out who did this.

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